tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post114486098294470122..comments2023-08-11T10:04:41.498-05:00Comments on Sandalstraps' Sanctuary: Marcus Borg Clarifies My Thinking on FaithSandalstrapshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1145190182712169342006-04-16T07:23:00.000-05:002006-04-16T07:23:00.000-05:00Brian,Thanks for theologically redeeming my typo! ...Brian,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for theologically redeeming my typo! I think you're right. That is the sort of thing that Phillip Yancy pointed to in his great book, <EM>Reaching for the Invisible God</EM>.<BR/><BR/>Paula,<BR/><BR/>Thanks. Happy Easter to you and yours as well.Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1145172266246743162006-04-16T02:24:00.000-05:002006-04-16T02:24:00.000-05:00Chris, have a Happy and Blessed Easter with all yo...Chris, have a Happy and Blessed Easter with all your family!PVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04943143109952894018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1145025266813938482006-04-14T09:34:00.000-05:002006-04-14T09:34:00.000-05:00Troy,Sometimes a typo is just a typo. I still need...Troy,<BR/><BR/>Sometimes a typo is just a typo. I <EM>still</EM> need an editor (a running gag that's run so long it isn't really a gag anymore)!<BR/><BR/>My last comment should have had Jesus saying<BR/><BR/><EM>My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?</EM>Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144990913555519472006-04-14T00:01:00.000-05:002006-04-14T00:01:00.000-05:00S,one, I think it's cool you bring in Borg here (a...S,<BR/><BR/>one, I think it's cool you bring in Borg here (almost every human on this planet can teach me something) and<BR/><BR/>two, there is no doubt faith is not just intellectual assent to some proposition. It can't be just that. James didn't think so. Paul didn't think so either. Jesus, with his many works-based parables definitely didn't think so (though he asked Peter 'who do you sayTenaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05825416797769424875noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144887859755495452006-04-12T19:24:00.000-05:002006-04-12T19:24:00.000-05:00Brian,Your balancing of immanence with transcenden...Brian,<BR/><BR/>Your balancing of <EM>immanence</EM> with <EM>transcendence</EM> speaks both to my experience as a Christian who must always balance doubt with faith (I once wrote an essay on why doubt was actually <EM>good</EM> for faith) and to my understanding of the Biblical narrative.<BR/><BR/>As this is Holy Week, perhaps we ought to meditate on the culmination of the admixture of immanenceSandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144876320482759772006-04-12T16:12:00.000-05:002006-04-12T16:12:00.000-05:00Brian,Ignatius talks about the Principle and Found...Brian,<BR/><BR/>Ignatius talks about the Principle and Foundation in his Spiritual Exercises, and the way he puts it is pretty medieval - the discovery of our purpose, which is to praise, reverence and serve God. But another way of expressing it (as I read in a book by William Barry SJ) is to think of the desire to be part of everything (God?) shown in this Wordsworth poem - <BR/><BR/><I>My crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05681674503952991492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144874632908151642006-04-12T15:43:00.000-05:002006-04-12T15:43:00.000-05:00About faith-based NT scholarship ... There is an e...About faith-based NT scholarship ... <I>There is an excellent blogger-cooler discussion going on regarding faith-based scholarship, sparked by Michael Fox's SBL forum article here. Michael Fox himself wrote his article in partial response to an SBL Forum article by Mary Bader (and see letters to the SBL editor about Bader's article here). Please take the time to read the blog's on this subject</Icrystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05681674503952991492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144873349832054672006-04-12T15:22:00.000-05:002006-04-12T15:22:00.000-05:00Crystal,Yes, Marcus Borg is one of the scholars in...Crystal,<BR/><BR/>Yes, Marcus Borg is one of the scholars in the Jesus Seminar. He shares their project of trying to identify the "historical Jesus" (a quest which I think is helpful, but ultimately impossible). However he is not just interested in the "historical Jesus," whom he calls the "pre-Easter Jesus." He is also interested in what has often been called the "Christ of faith," which he Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144872698194739502006-04-12T15:11:00.000-05:002006-04-12T15:11:00.000-05:00BTW, that last comment was about the post and not ...BTW, that last comment was about the post and not the comments, as I haven't read through them yet.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05348006121457980087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144872644240630482006-04-12T15:10:00.000-05:002006-04-12T15:10:00.000-05:00All I can say is: "cool".All I can say is: "cool".Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05348006121457980087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144868135184616832006-04-12T13:55:00.000-05:002006-04-12T13:55:00.000-05:00Is Marcu Borg one of the Jesus seminar guys?Faith ...Is Marcu Borg one of the Jesus seminar guys?<BR/><BR/>Faith for me started with experience and feelings, and from there added theology to sort of explain that. The foundational experience, as Ignatius might say, makes considering the creed possible and worth the effort.crystalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05681674503952991492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1144865953753255972006-04-12T13:19:00.000-05:002006-04-12T13:19:00.000-05:00Very interesting. Some of it reminds me of what th...Very interesting. Some of it reminds me of what the Jesuit Roger Haight (if I understood him correctly) referred to as the difference between faith, which is the basic ground of the religious and believing experience, and creed, which is posterior to faith and involves assent to certain propositions about the nature of what is experienced as faith. He sees a danger in mistaking creed for faith, Liamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17265036866243982434noreply@blogger.com