tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post114235022128060468..comments2023-08-11T10:04:41.498-05:00Comments on Sandalstraps' Sanctuary: Debunking ChristianitySandalstrapshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-86942065045678430522008-09-04T10:23:00.000-05:002008-09-04T10:23:00.000-05:00church is a great worship of god is save the peopl...church is a great worship of god is save the people and nature.If you want people to speak to your specific belief more positions.<BR/><BR/>*************************************<BR/><BR/>tamiljames<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.christian-drug-rehab.org" REL="nofollow"> http://www.christian-drug-rehab.org</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142772172102880042006-03-19T07:42:00.000-05:002006-03-19T07:42:00.000-05:00John Hick<A HREF="http://www.johnhick.org.uk/" REL="nofollow">John Hick</A>Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142382722497341472006-03-14T19:32:00.000-05:002006-03-14T19:32:00.000-05:00Squirelly,Where would I get money, much less the a...Squirelly,<BR/><BR/>Where would I get money, much less the amount needed to pay <EM>anyone</EM> by the word?<BR/><BR/>Tom,<BR/><BR/>Sorry, I won't take your bait today.Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142377146818667492006-03-14T17:59:00.000-05:002006-03-14T17:59:00.000-05:00I'd do it by the word, too. Although I very much d...I'd do it by the word, too. Although I very much doubt that Chris would be able to afford anyone at any rate per <I>word</I>, longwinded as he is. That's why I proof read Princess Pinky. She's nice and <I>concise</I>.Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05348006121457980087noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142370206531171782006-03-14T16:03:00.000-05:002006-03-14T16:03:00.000-05:00typo alert:Comment 10: "out" = "ought"I still need...typo alert:<BR/><BR/>Comment 10: "out" = "ought"<BR/><BR/>I still need a secretarySandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142370122267852422006-03-14T16:02:00.000-05:002006-03-14T16:02:00.000-05:00The last comment was typed before exbeliever's las...The last comment was typed before exbeliever's last comment posted. We must have been typing at the same time.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the misunderstanding.<BR/><BR/>By the way, I don't try to keep language from changing, but I do from time to time critque they way in which it changes. And, I'm still a liberal, even if that word is used as an insult now.<BR/><BR/>But I live in Kentucky. Mark Twain Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142369922059268782006-03-14T15:58:00.000-05:002006-03-14T15:58:00.000-05:00One more thought on the use of "evangelical":While...One more thought on the use of "evangelical":<BR/><BR/>While it is tempting to do, one out not use the terms "evangelical" and "progressive" as though they are necessarily opposed. There are in fact progressive evangelicals. I am one such creature.<BR/><BR/>In this case "progressive" refers to the belief system (seen in opposition to "conservative" or "fundamentalist"), while "evangelical" refersSandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142369855597153342006-03-14T15:57:00.000-05:002006-03-14T15:57:00.000-05:00SS,You wrote: "And please don't patronize me with ...SS,<BR/><BR/>You wrote: "And please don't patronize me with nonsense like your comment, as though I had any power over that."<BR/><BR/>Bummer, comment sections suck at good communication. I really didn't mean that to sound patronizing. I was smiling when I typed it if that means anything ;-).<BR/><BR/>I still much prefer progressive Christians to Evangelical ones. We probably share 98% of the exbelieverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821290397922309515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142368516643483572006-03-14T15:35:00.000-05:002006-03-14T15:35:00.000-05:00former_fundy,Thank you for reminding me of the Ful...former_fundy,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for reminding me of the Fuller connection. I had forgotten that.<BR/><BR/>Also, thank you for clarrifying your purpose. Perhaps I assumed wrongly that you have the same project as my former professor.<BR/><BR/>Agnosticism is a very healthy perspective, but it was of little comfort to me. I guess you could say that in a sense I <EM>am</EM> an agnostic, since I Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142368206391479182006-03-14T15:30:00.000-05:002006-03-14T15:30:00.000-05:00SS,I agree with your point about the term "evangel...SS,<BR/><BR/>I agree with your point about the term "evangelicalism". My understanding is that it originated with the Lutherans in Europe. In the US, evangelical and fundamentalist were essentially synonyms until the 1940's when Harold Ockenga of Fuller Seminary coined the term "new evangelical."<BR/><BR/>As for promoting atheism, I am not sure thats the purpose of the Debunking Christianity blogFormer_Fundyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17200666746585022720noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142367110899458722006-03-14T15:11:00.000-05:002006-03-14T15:11:00.000-05:00exbeliever,I have a great deal of sympathy for you...exbeliever,<BR/><BR/>I have a great deal of sympathy for you when you say<BR/><BR/><EM>It is very challenging for us to discuss Christianity in all of its different varieties.</EM><BR/><BR/>It reminds me of something that one of my favorite philosophy professors, an atheist, and one hell of a logician, said.<BR/><BR/>He said that the difficulty with being an atheist is that one has to smash each Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142364609321109342006-03-14T14:30:00.000-05:002006-03-14T14:30:00.000-05:00Incidentally, my definition of "evangelical" comes...Incidentally, my definition of "evangelical" comes from outside the Christian tradition rather than inside it. The definition I use came from one of the many religious studies classes I took while getting my degree in philosophy from Indiana University. As best as I can tell, based on its usage in those classes, my definition reflects the way in which scholars of religion use the term.<BR/><BR/>Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142364305476535802006-03-14T14:25:00.000-05:002006-03-14T14:25:00.000-05:00You needn't change a thing to please me. My conten...You needn't change a thing to please me. My contention is that <EM>they</EM> are making the error. You are merely repeating it.<BR/><BR/>However, my contention rests not on the consensus of my "progressive friends" but on a matter of the historical record. As a matter of historical fact there <EM>were</EM> evangelical Christians <EM>before</EM> the movement which you call Evangelical ChristianitySandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142363905780850402006-03-14T14:18:00.000-05:002006-03-14T14:18:00.000-05:00SS,As soon as you get self-proclaimed Evangelicals...SS,<BR/><BR/>As soon as you get self-proclaimed Evangelicals who you proclaim to be "fundamentalists" to stop using the term and when you get all of the media and Christian magazines to accept your defintions, we'll change our moniker. Until then, we'll go with the definition that everyone who isn't you and your few progressive friends uses. Deal?exbelieverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821290397922309515noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142353977349664282006-03-14T11:32:00.000-05:002006-03-14T11:32:00.000-05:00exbeliever,My contention is that in challenging Ev...exbeliever,<BR/><BR/>My contention is that in challenging Evangelical Christianity you are misidentifying the term "evangelical." I left a comment to that effect on your blog.<BR/><BR/>Evangelical Christianity is a term which is most frequently used to describe a cultural movement which started with a change in approach by people like Billy Graham, who while fundamentalist in their belief system,Sandalstrapshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16303641009581382217noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-18491098.post-1142351253853933562006-03-14T10:47:00.000-05:002006-03-14T10:47:00.000-05:00SS,Thanks for the link. It is very challenging fo...SS,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link. <BR/><BR/>It is very challenging for us to discuss Christianity in all of its different varieties. Most of the team members at our blog have Evangelical backgrounds, but I have a foot in fundamentalism, Evangelicalism, and progressive Christianity (I was a member of a well-known progressive Episcopal church).<BR/><BR/>While our primary "target" (if you will) isexbelieverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04821290397922309515noreply@blogger.com